Eclesiastes 7
Augustine of Hippo · Comentário Patrístico (catena)
Eclesiastes 7:20
The following is one of the many arguments that Pelagius uses in treating this subject: "Once more I repeat: I say that it is possible for a person to be without sin. And what do you say? That it is impossible for a person to be without sin? But I do not say," he adds, "that there is a person without sin, nor do you say that there is not a person without sin. We are disputing about what is possible and impossible, not about what is and is not." Next he notes that a number of the passages of Scripture which are usually invoked against them do not bear upon the question in dispute, namely, whether or not a person can be without sin: "For there is no one who is free from pollution," and, "There is no one that does not sin," and, "There is no just person on the earth," and, "There is no one that does good." "These and other similar texts," he says, "apply to nonexistence, not to impossibility. By examples of this kind it is shown how some persons were at a given time, not that they could not have been something else. For this reason they are justly found to be guilty. For if they were as they were because they could not have been otherwise, then they are free from blame." — ON NATURE AND GRACE 8
Eclesiastes 7:29
The Manichaeans deny that to a good man the beginning of evil came from free will; the Pelagians say that even a bad man has free will sufficiently to perform the good commandment. The Catholic church condemns both, saying to the former, "God made man upright," and saying to the latter, "If the Son shall make you free, you shall be free indeed." — AGAINST TWO LETTERS OF THE PELAGIANS 2:2
Eclesiastes 7:29
The reason that we, being bad, have a good Father is in order that we may not always remain bad. No bad person can make a good one. If no bad person can make a good one, how can a bad man make himself good? The only one who can make a good person out of a bad one is the one who is always good. "Heal me, Lord," he says, "and I shall be healed; save me, and I shall be saved." Why do they say to me, silly people saying silly things, "You can save yourself if you want to"? "Heal me, Lord, and I shall be healed." We were created good by the good God, seeing that "God made man upright." But by our own decision we became bad. We were able to change from good to bad, and we shall be able to change from bad to good. But it is the one who is always good that can change bad to good, because man, by his own will, cannot heal himself. You don't look for a doctor to wound you; but when you have wounded yourself, you look for one to heal you. — SERMON 61:2
Eclesiastes 7:29
Let us be displeased with ourselves when we sin, because sins displease God. And because we are not in fact without sin, let us at least be like God in this respect, that what displeases him displeases us. Now you are displeased with that in yourself which he also hates who made you. He designed and constructed you; but take a look at yourself and eliminate from yourself everything that does not come from his workshop. For God, as it says, "created man upright." — SERMON 19:4
Eclesiastes 7:29
There is also a good world consisting of people, but made so out of a bad one. The whole world, you see, if you take the world as meaning people, leaving aside world in the sense of heaven and earth and all things that are in them; if you mean people by world, then the whole world was made bad by the one who first sinned. The whole mass is vitiated in its root. God made man good; that is what Scripture says: "God made man upright, and they themselves have sought out many devices." — SERMON 96:6