João 17

João 17

Vincent explains "(theoreo) was more than simple seeing. The verb means looking steadfastly, as one who has an interest in the object, and with a view to search into and understand it: to look inquiringly and intently. (Ed Note: And even with a sense of amazement.) THEOREO IN JOHN'S GOSPEL - Jn. 2:23; Jn. 4:19; Jn. 6:19; Jn. 6:40; Jn. 6:62; Jn. 7:3; Jn. 8:51; Jn. 9:8; Jn. 10:12; Jn. 12:19; Jn. 12:45; Jn. 14:17; Jn. 14:19; Jn. 16:10; Jn. 16:16; Jn. 16:17; Jn. 16:19; Jn. 17:24; Jn. 20:6; Jn. 20:12; Jn. 20:14 Foundation (2602) katabole from kataballo = to throw down from kata = down + ballo = throw, cast) is literally a casting down or laying down. The original idea was the laying down of the foundation of a house. Katabole was a technical term for putting seed into the ground, it is also used of the role of the male in impregnating the female and there is one such use in Hebrews 11:11, referring to the casting in or sowing of seed, conveying the idea of begetting. TDNT adds that katabole meant "“laying down,” is used for, e.g., the casting of seed, human begetting, the sowing of war, and the establishment of government." Ten of the 11 NT uses of katabole (there are no uses in the LXX) are in the phrase "foundation of the world". The katabolē of the world (cf. Matthew 13:35; 25:34; Luke 11:50; Ephesians 1:4; Hebrews 4:3; 9:26; 1 Peter 1:20; Revelation 13:8; 17:8) is the “laying down” of its foundation. KATABOLE - 11V -Matt. 13:35; Matt. 25:34; Lk. 11:50; Jn. 17:24; Eph. 1:4; Heb. 4:3; Heb. 9:26; Heb. 11:11; 1 Pet. 1:20; Rev. 13:8; Rev. 17:8 John 17:24 Clearly Implies subordination of the Son - See article "The Subordination of the Son," by John Dahms who writes... (1) 1 Cor 15:24, 28 (is) The locus classicus for the doctrine of the essential subordination of the Son is 1 Cor 15:24, 28....These verses imply that the last of the eschatological events prior to the eternal state will be the subjection of the Son to the Father and that this will be the condition forever thereafter. And surely his final relationship to the Father will not be inferior to the relationship he had with the Father in his préexistent state (cf. John 17:5; Phil 2:6-11). (2) John 17:24. Jesus is represented as praying: "Father, I desire t h a t they also whom thou hast given me, may be with me where I am, to behold my glory which thou hast given me in thy love for me before the foundation of the world." In the light of 17:5 ("Father, glorify me with the glory which I had with thee before the world was made") it is clear that His eternal glory is in view. And that this glory is said to be the Father's gift to Him implies an eternal subordination. C H